check this out!
someone just mailed me this excerpt from:.
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41682.htm.
Well the letter I saw said Oct 2001! I wonder if that letter was legit????????
I wonder if they signed up again after all the hubbub died down?
Or then again..maybe they never really were "Disassociated?
Interesting!..They used the NGO for protection..and not for the library?
Or maybe they just showed them the original letter showing they had joined and not the one saying they were "Disassociating" and no one checked to see if they were current?
just for fun:.
people love pets, and pets love people.
see if you can match four people with their pets and their correct names.. here's the story:.
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a few times me and my family have had it out about the cult,and my parents{especially my mom}who are now 50,get all craxzy sometimes.she almost acts like she's physically sick,or haveing a heart attack or something when things get heated.now i understand sheis emotional to begin with,thats what got her into this crap .but is all these factors a reason to hold back feelings?i often find myself tip-toeing around how i talk to her.i feel the fanatic state they kept thier kids(especially us o0lder 3 of 5}really had detrimental effects on us.it's not so much of what they believed,but how they held us kids back from normal growth.i don't want to make her feel terrible,but sometimes it's hard not to say things.she still clings to her meeting on sunday,and basic principlkes of the bible,but i at times feel betrayed because of her cntinuing to support that reloigion.i guess you just have to take it as comes.has this happened to anyone else?sometimes i care,sometimes i don't.i want my parents to know exactly how wrong the way they raised me was.i guess it was worse because i was so trusting.at a few times in my life,i actually beli9eved.when the rug got pulled out for me,i was left emotionally scarred.it is very difficult for me to forgive and forget.it's just the more you think about how ridicoulous there way of raising children was,the more angry i get.. its my little brothers 21 birthday tonight,and we are all going out to eat and have a few drinks{but it's not a birthday party}.i couldn't do crap in all my childhood.they taught me to hate.they used warped scare tactics on young children.they held me back socially in everyway.they caused,thru that cult,soooooo much pain,that still lingers today.will i ever truly forgive and forget,i dont think so,but thier age may spare them my full disdain.its a fine line i tread with my parents,one between love and hate.. should age matter when it comes to confronting people on this subject,one that runs deep for many of us children of the watchtowers 1980's /early 90's pinnacle of fanatisism?stp
Well..being a parent I can truthfully say:
No parent wants to hear that they were a bad parent!
I would try and say things that would not be finger pointing. Even tho it was our fault for becoming JW's in the first place..
But who's to say what your life would have been otherwise? Really..if you stop and think about it.
We all envision this wonderful life we "Might have had if only"..maybe there would have been other problems.
Maybe a different approach might work better at promotoing a closer relationship...?
And just for the record..using my age to try and get the Kids to do something..doesn't work for me..
They just roll their eyes.. And say..yeah right Mom...
BUT..it does work in retail stores etc....sometimes...
Snoozy....
best wishes to you and mr. sirona.
i hope you have a lovely weekend together.. lots of love,.
rachel xx
Wishing you both a very Happy Anniversary!
I still celebrate mine with a picture of hubby..
Snoozy..
I was shocked when I was told I couldn't attend my JW in-laws "Big Anniversary Party" The whole KH and non witness relatives..(.I may stumble somone.)
Little did they know they were going against the big WTBTS's recommendations!.
Little did I know 
Go for it Ritchie!...
I bet you will get a BIG surprise!..
Snoozy....
one of the major things the watchtower teach is learning religions and how important it is to find out if one is catholic or baptist or so forth.
i can recall when i was studying with my ex-inlaws in the blue, "truth," book, there's a chapter on, "why is it wise to study you're religion.
" there you'll discover it covers just a few tibbits on most major religions.
I can just hear their reply now:..Yes but there are many so called roads to god..but there is only one TRUE road and we own that road!
Snoozy... who loved your reply to the witnesses!
i am interested obtaining as much as i can regarding the wts and the method they use to stop members from using the internet.. my daughter is presently living, and appears committed for life to stay there at the paterson compound.
i have recently noticed her reluctance to use the internet as a communicating tool.
is there any documents that they have published that discourages, convinces or otherwise forces the members to refrain from using the internet.
How about giving her this link... sure to be a conversation starter..
Then sit back and watch the heads roll...
Snoozy...
would you go to a funeral at a kingdom hall?
would it have to be someone that is very close family or just an acquaintance?.
i dont know that jw funerals really off ther much closer and point blank i can not think of a single person i would go to the hall for.
Most certainly!..Why not.
And sith..I had the same exact experience with my JW hubby when he died.I too bit my tongue.Many, many times.
It was all about hubby. It wasn't time to cause any problems.
I brought hubby home to die though. Had to welcome them in my home..tough call..luckily for me..they only showed up one time..but his JW family was there a lot!. Bit my tongue a whole lot then. It was very cruel..they picked a time when all I cared about was making hubby comfortable to make me as miserable as I could be..and shortened any precious time I might have had with hubby in his last days.
Hey..according to their beliefs..they thought they would see him again..I didn't. Why couldn't they have given me time alone with him ..
especially since they told me over and over that I would not see him again if I didn't go back..how cruel was that.
Well they anger is coming back..
But anyway..I have no one left that is a witness that I would care to see at a memorial..so I will never have to do it again. 2 times was enough.
But I would do it all over again for a loved one!
Snoozy...
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i cant believe it i was counting down the days when it would reach my birthday, of being on her 1 year and i forgot.
and so did you lot thanks..
Happy Anniversary!
And what a good member you are!..Average is 1.59 posts a day!
You truly give in what you take out...
You do us proud..
Snoozy...
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so we have about 5 weeks left.
ja i couldn't believe it.
I remember when I had kids they said they would probably not even get out of grade school..(6th grade then)..
They are all in their middle to late 40's now...
I believe they even told this to my JW SIL who is in her 60's now!..
If you think about it ..they have to change the dates..or they would be out of business..right?
They wouldn't have anything to peddle!
If you really think about it..
If religions didn't preach about an "Afterlife"..they would all be out of business!
I only knew of one "Annointed " when I was going..she was in her 80's then..as were most of them at that time..and she was the sweetest little lady..grey hair and angelic face..very quiet. Hardly ever answered..but they were intelligent answers..
Then I got to wondering..in the "Olden days" most religions taught about a heaven and hell..was this just a carryover for her and the other "annointed" from another religion?..And that's why they had "Heavenly "hopes? I always felt this way..never truly believed they were "Special"
Snoozy...who was trying to remember just how long "Noah" preached about the end of the world before God supposedly caused the flood?
And also wondering if he ever changed the date?
Come to think of it ..is history repeating itself? Didn't God do the job right the first time?
I guess he has lot's of time to experiment on us poor little humans.....
